Tuesday, December 1, 2020

Murder on the orient experss part 2 ch 9 through part 3 ch 9 (The End)

part 2 ch 9 mr hard man
turns out mr hard man is a detective. He was hired by mr. rachet to protect him. fail. he doesn't smoke a pipe and doesn't know anyone that wears a red dressing gown.

part 2 ch 10 the italian
He's a sales guy, very chatty. Seems like a good bloke. Mr what's his face who thought he was the murderer sure called that wrong. he only smokes cigarettes.

part 2 ch 11 ms debenham
This is the lady from the first train that's a governes in baghdad. She's not overly concerned about there having been a murder on the train. She wears a mauve dressing gown. Also at one point her room mate left their room. Poirot thinks it was too early to have been when Rachet was murdered.

part 2 ch 12 The german lady's maid
she wears a dark blue flannel dressing gown. She did see the conductor coming out of one of the middlest compartments. So that's neat. Word has gotten out that rachet was responsible for Daisy Armstrong's murder. Also neat. Neatest thing, they bring in the conductors so she can say which one it was and she says it wasn't any of them.  So we've got some other dude dressed as a conductor.  That's probably the murderer.

part 2 ch 13 summary of evidence
We're not really sure on the time of the murder.  We're not sure if the murderer is male or female.  We think maybe the "man" mr rachet identified as a potential murderer wsa really a woman.  We know there's someone that was dressed as a conductor that wasn't one of the three conductors.  We know there's a lady that was wearing a red kimono.  WE think there might have been one or two murderers.  One thing Poirot is pretty sure of is that you'll find a conductor's uniform in Ms. Hildegard's compartment.  

part 2 ch 14 the weapon
Mrs Hubbard finds the weapon in her sponge bag.  It's all bloody and she faints at the sight of it.  When she wakes up she takes a sip of cognac and mentions that her whole family doesn't drink.  She demands to be moved to another room.  Of course they'll move her to another room.  Poirot say she needs to search her luggage.  They're going to be searching everyone's luggage.  One tidbit I found fun was that she didn't take a train to get to the city where she got on this train.  She arrived via boat.  

part 2 ch15 the luggage
first they search the hard man's luggage.  Nothing interesting there.  Then they search the colonel's room and they find he uses the same kind of pipe cleaners that were found on the floor of the victim's room.  Next is princess dragiormav's, they have to have her german maid fetch the keys to her luggage.  The count and countess have diplomatic passports so they're exempt, but Poirot thinks they'll be reasonable and let them search anyway.  He is right, nothing remarkable there.  Mrs. Hubbard, the dead man and Poirot are searched to no special remarks.  They search debenbam and ohlson's room.  Poirot has ohlson go comfort mrs. hubbard so he can interogate debenbam more.  He specifically points out that on the previous train she was FREAKING OUT at the delay, but on this train she's pretty chill about it.  His idea being that she really wanted to get on THIS train, maybe to do the murder.  He also tells her about the pipe cleaner they found on the floor of the victim and how the colonel is the only person on the train that smokes a pipe.  Next is hildegarde schmidt, they find a brown wagon lit uniform and assure hildegarde that they are certain it's no hers, that the murderer hid it here.  Also, there's a conductor's key with the uniform, so all this back and forth about whether certain doors were locked or not turn out to not have mattered as the murderer can enter any door they want.  They search MacQueen and the Italian and find ntohing useful.  The red kimono is stull unfound.

part 3 ch 1 which of them?
they have a thought atht the hands on the watch were set to 1:15 on purpose to throw off the investigation.  So the thing thye're going to try to do is figure out who has an alabi for exactly 1:15 for some reason.  Also that at 12:30, the conductor came to the victim's room and the response was in french, so we're thinking it couldn't have been rachet cause he just speaks American, maybe that was the murderer so we're looking for someone that speaks French.  They go through all the passengers one by one to check their motive, alibiy, the eveidence agianst them and suspicious circumstances.  

part 3 ch 2 ten questions
Poirot has written down 10 questions stating if we can answer these ten questions we might solve the murder.  Some of them they have ansers to.  Otheres, not so muhc.  The basic fram of it right now is that the pipe cleaner was placed on purpose to cast suspicious on the cononel, that the second murderer set the time on the watch backt o 1:14.  Also, the second murderer might not have known rachet was already dead.  stabbing at him in the darkensks.  Also, everyone signed with thier right hand.  So it's rough figuring out who must have done that left handed stab.  Princess dragomiroff refused to sign, but they're thinking she would nto be strong enough to stab a man to death.

part 3 ch 3 certain suggestive points
Lots of jibber jabber going on in this chapter.  Talking in circles due to the lack of real evidence.  The hankercheif witthe H on it.  Maybe the rusian princesses real name is not Elana, it's Helena as there's a greece stan where the H wouls have been othe passport.  Somebody steals that hankerchief, leaves it in rachet's room as fake evidence not realizing that the name everyone used for her and she told people wasn't an H name.  But who would that have been?  Maybe the countess.  But we don't think the russian princess is strong enough to have done the murder.  So I guess we're gonna explore this next chapter?  I'm getting allt eh characters confused.  

part 3 ch 4 a grease spot on a hungarian passport
The countess is really named Helen.  The count confesses to the whole passport grease spot renaming thing.  Poirot shows them the H hankerchief and Helen swears it's not hers.  Poirot tells Hellen that he thinks she's really Daisy Armstrong's sister and that he also thinks there's someone else that was around during the bad ole days that's here on this train.  Hellen says she had a caretaker/teacher that was a bit of a dragon, which immediately makes me think of the russian princess Dragomiroff.

part 3 ch 5 the christian name of princess dragomiroff
Princess dragomiroff comes in and asks for her hankerchief back.  Her name is Natalia.  In Russian, the N is an H, hence the H on her hankercheif.  Lots of talking about how She and her maid and the count and countess have been lying and all along knew that this was Princess dragomiroff's handkerchief.  But they all swear to have had nothing to do with the murder.  Hard to accept that someone is telling the truth when you know they've been lying to you already.  So Poirot has the idea that he's gonna start confronting other passengers about the lies he knows they've told him.  Gonna start with the colonel.

part 3 ch 6 the colonel, again
Poirot tells the colonel of the pipe cleaner found at the dead man's room.  The colonel says he never spoke to the man, certainly wasn't in his room.  [eric thought] He was hanging out with Rachet's assistant, maybe he took the pipe cleaner and placed it in Rachet's room. [/eric thought]  Poirot asks about the whole "I cant't talk about it until this whole sorted affair is over" conversation between Ms. Debenham and the Colonel that he overheard.  Just like Ms. Debenham, the colonel won't talk about it.  Poirot tells the Colonel that Ms. Debenham was the Armstrong's governess when Daisy was kidnapped.  The colonel doesn't believe it.  Poirot tells someoen to fetch Ms. Debenham.

part 3 ch 7 the identity of Mary Debenham
Turns out she was the Armstrong's governess when daisy was murdered.  The colonel is all up in arms about Poirot harassing Mary.  fun thing, her name when she was working for the Armstrong's was freebody.  She got the name Debenham from an English store named debenham and freebody.  

Part 3 Ch 8 further surprising revelations.
The Italian guy was the Armstrong's chauffeur.  The cops harassed him a bit about the Daisy kidnapping.  Italians control organized crime, so if there's an italian, they probably did a crime.  The Swedish lady was daisy's nurse.  This is ridiculous, the whole train used to work for or was friends with the Armstrong's it seems.  The valet Masterman was Mr. Armstrong's Batman (I'm Batman) in the war and valet after.  Mr Harman comes to exclaim about how everyone on the train seems to be connected to the Armstrongs.  Poirot says he knows who did it.  Time to assemble everyone to tell them who dun it.d

Part 3 Ch 9 Poirot propounded two solutions
Poirot suggests a scenario where the killer jumped on the train at the last stop, had a conductors outfit and key, killed Rachet, dumps the knife and the uniform and jumps off the train.  We have no idea who this person is.

Poirot then outlines what actually happened.  EVERYONE did it.  All these people connected to the Armstrong's on the same train isn't just unlikely, it's impossible.  This whole situation was elaborately staged.  All the supposed evidence was staged to make it confusing and unproveable.  Rachet was drugged and All twelve people stabbed him once.  We don't know when or where each person stabbed Rachet so you can't say who killed him.

So we're just going to tell the authorities the first scenari o.



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